Health Babes Podcast #061: Getting to the Root of Histamine Intolerance & MCAS

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Intro: (00:03)

Welcome to the Health Babes podcast with Drs. Becky Campbell and Krystal Hohn, where we talk everything health.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (00:14)

Hey guys, welcome to the Health Babes podcast. I’m your host, Dr. Becky Campbell, and my co-host, Dr. Krystal Hohn, is on vacation today. So you have me alone. I’m going to talk about histamine intolerance and mast cell activation syndrome. So we’ve done a couple of episodes on histamine intolerance, so you can refer back to those if you want the basics—the 101 of histamine intolerance. I’m going to run through that again on this episode too, but quickly, and then I’m going to talk about some other things and answer some questions you’ve had. So let’s get started.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (00:52)

So a lot of people ask, “What is histamine?” They don’t really even know what it is. The only reason that people have heard of it is because they have maybe taken or know someone who has taken antihistamine medication. So they kind of think it’s a bad thing, and it’s definitely not.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (01:11)

Histamine has a very important role in the body. Its main job is to dilate our blood vessels—so, cause inflammation—and allow the immune system to kind of get in and do its job when we have a potential pathogen or allergen. Something like that. So we want to have that happen. It’s also involved in digestion. It helps us release hydrochloric acid to break down our food, and it’s really important in the talking between the brain and the body. So it’s a little chemical messenger between the brain and the body. It’s actually really, really important in the brain, and we’ll get into some of that in a little bit.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (01:52)

So there is a difference between mast cell activation syndrome and histamine intolerance. I am going to get into that today. But mast cells are the white blood cells that release different chemical mediators, and histamine just happens to be one of them.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (02:09)

With mast cell activation syndrome, it does look a lot like histamine intolerance. The symptoms are very overlapping, and the triggers are very overlapping. The main difference that you will see with mast cell activation syndrome is that, number one, it does not have to come with histamine intolerance—but it does most of the time, I would say. And number two, mast cell activation syndrome, tends to make people a little bit more sensitive because the job of our mast cells is to sense something, like a pathogen, and release those inflammatory chemicals to do their job. But with mast cell activation syndrome, something is triggering your mast cells to do that, even when it’s not really a threat. So it doesn’t have to be a pathogen or something like that. It could be a weather change. It could be the hot weather that makes that happen. It could be smelling perfume that makes that happen, which is why a lot of people with mast cell activation syndrome have chemical sensitivities.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (03:13)

So when you have mast cell activation syndrome, you are a little bit more sensitive. There tend to be a lot more triggers to mast cell activation syndrome than with just histamine intolerance. And it does tend to be something that, even when you’ve addressed your triggers, you are going to remain a little bit more sensitive. So when you have just a histamine intolerance—histamine intolerance is typically brought on by something, or maybe a couple of things put together, like something going on in the gut, and I’ll dive into that in a minute, or something hormonal, which is making you release more histamine than you can break down—it can be temporary. So that’s kind of the difference between the two.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (03:55)

So let’s talk about what kind of symptoms we’re looking at with these. There are some common symptoms. Migraines are a big thing with histamine intolerance. Histamine does dilate our vessels, and migraines tend to be from dilation. So that can be a factor in that. A lot of skin issues. We do have a lot of mast cells in our skin. So when our mast cells are dumping those inflammatory chemicals, you can imagine that it would inflame the skin, right? So you can see a lot of eczema, just different types of dermatitis, flushing—that’s kind of when you turn red, maybe after you work out or if you’re embarrassed—a lot of people have that. And then some people get hives. So a lot of people will come to me and say, “I have hives, and I have no idea why.” And that tends to fall in line with either histamine intolerance or mast cell activation syndrome.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (04:58)

Vertigo can be really common with this. Insomnia can be really, really common because histamine really wakes up our brain. And the longer you’re going on in the day, the more histamine you’re producing and releasing. So when you go to go to sleep your brain can be really excited, and that’s because the histamine is not being broken down properly. So insomnia is very common. Swelling, again, because of having those mast cells in the skin. You can see that some people just have swelling, and they have no idea why.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (05:31)

Another really common symptom is congestion—when people have that constant congestion and don’t know where it’s coming from. This can be from other things too, like gut infections, which also drive histamine issues. But yes, if you just have weird congestion and you’re not sick and you don’t know where it came from, that can definitely be a histamine intolerance.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (05:52)

A really big sign is a racing heart. So if you’re eating and your heart starts racing, or if you’re drinking wine because wine is very high in histamine, that can definitely be a histamine intolerance.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (06:06)

It can also lead to things like anxiety and panic attacks. And then, something that a lot of people don’t know the name for but know they have is dermatographia. So that is basically where, when you draw on your skin—you can literally just take your fingernail and draw a line down your skin—it will stay red. So they notice that if they scratch themselves, they stay really red. So that’s a very big sign, too.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (06:34)

So how do we get this? Some of it is unknown, I will say, with mast cell activation syndrome. But I do see that it tends to run in families. Usually, if someone has this, at least one of their family members, I’ll find, also has it—sometimes their kids or their mother or father. But mast cell activation syndrome is probably the number one cause of histamine intolerance. Gluten sensitivity, intolerance, or any of that can really be an issue and cause the body not to be able to break down histamine very well.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (07:07)

Leaky gut. So when we have a lining, we have these little cells that are all really tight, and they line our whole gut. So mouth to anus—that’s your gut. And they’re supposed to protect the stuff inside your gut from getting out into the blood and lymph, and vice versa. So if you have food and bacteria inside the gut, we don’t want them to get out of the gut. When your gut gets leaky—so those cells get a little divide, a little kind of hole in them—you start getting food and bacteria and all that out into the bloodstream. That can alert the immune system to start creating antibodies. And it can really aggravate your body in many ways, even leading to autoimmune disease. But that lining is where some of the enzyme… There are different enzymes that break down histamine, but the one that I’m going to talk about most is called the DAO enzyme. That enzyme is made in the lining of the gut. So you can see why disrupting the lining of that gut would cause you to reduce the enzyme that breaks down histamine and therefore have a buildup of histamine, causing this histamine intolerance.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (08:20)

Gut infections—that word is used a lot, but I don’t know if everyone actually knows what it means. It means when you have bad bacteria in the gut, which is called opportunistic bacteria. We want good bacteria; that’s why people take probiotics and that type of stuff. But this is a bad type of bacteria. Having yeast overgrowth, having H. pylori, which is another type of bacteria, having parasites—all of that stuff disrupts that gut barrier and can even help your body produce more histamine. So this is why whenever I work with someone with histamine intolerance, I really, really check the gut. That’s one of the things I do first.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (09:03)

So different things—other gut issues, like irritable bowel disease. And then there’s some genetic component to it. There are mutations in the enzymes that break down histamine and some other gene mutations that can lead to this. And I go through all of this in a lot of detail in the first book that I did, which is The 4-Phase Histamine Reset Plan. This is the book I recommend you get. If you’re new to this and don’t know where to start, this book kind of breaks it down for you. I was really careful to try to tell you if you’re working with someone what to do, and if you’re not able to work with someone, what to do also. So I go over the specific mutations in there. Medications—I also give lists of medications there. But a lot of medications break down that enzyme, so they break down our own ability to break down histamine.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (09:54)

And then mold really aggravates our mast cells. So that is going to cause us to release a lot of those chemical mediators, like histamine. Mold is a huge trigger for mast cell activation syndrome and histamine intolerance. And then [there is] EMF exposure—the electromagnetic fields that come from our Wi-Fi are also really aggravating to the mast cells. Some people don’t really make the correlation, but they are really sensitive when they’re in homes that have everything set up on Wi-Fi. You know, we have our air conditioner, our doorbell, cameras all over, our TVs—everything is Wi-Fi now—our phones, our computers. Everything. So some people have this kind of feeling like an internal shaking, or they just feel weird, and they’ll notice it when they go into certain houses or maybe their own house with a lot of the electromagnetic field. So that is a really big aggravation for our mast cells, again, helping us to release too much histamine.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (11:07)

So let’s talk about some foods. I want to walk you through what I do with someone who will come to see me with mast cell activation syndrome or histamine intolerance. There are foods that are high in histamine. So if we already have an issue breaking down histamine, we would want to eliminate foods that are high in histamine because we don’t want to keep adding to the issue. But a lot of these foods have a lot of nutritional value. So the goal with all this is not to eliminate them forever; the goal is to eliminate them while you’re working on what’s driving this issue.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (11:51)

And I want to say something really important. Mast cell activation syndrome and histamine intolerance are reactions to something going on in the body, so they are reactions to triggers and some of the things we just talked about. So if you’re living in mold and you’re feeling terrible and your mast cells are dumping all these inflammatory chemicals, that is mast cell activation in reaction to mold. That’s something that’s really important because the whole idea of all of this is that you want to get to the driver or drivers—because there’s usually more than one—and fix those if possible, and then you can start to feel better.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (12:33)

So when someone comes to see me, the first thing that I want to do is make sure that their body is really good at pushing toxins out. If you’re listening to this, you’ve probably heard of this before or have experienced some of its symptoms and are wondering if you have it. So I want to make sure that you are really good at pushing toxins out of your body. So what I was saying is that if you are someone who is listening to this, you probably notice you’re sensitive, right? You’re more sensitive to things. You may not do well in stores. You may not do well around people who wear perfume. You may have been able to wear perfume before, and now you can’t. Or you may just be having some strange symptoms and don’t know where they’re coming from. But most people with histamine intolerance and mast cell activation syndrome do not push toxins out well. This is why you can walk into a room with mold with someone else and they may feel fine. They could stay there for a week; you last five minutes. It’s because of, first of all, the way that our mast cells behave around this, and second of all, if we hold onto toxic things like mold or if we push them out really well. This is another reason why some people can handle alcohol fine and other people fall apart with one drink—meaning, usually a hangover. It’s because we don’t push that out well.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (14:08)

Before I start getting in there and killing any type of infection or anything like that, I want to make sure you’re going to push out the toxins in there because when you start killing bacteria in the gut, it’s going to create toxins in your body, and you don’t want those circulating. So it really depends on the person. If you’re really, really, really sensitive—and I work with some of the most sensitive people, and I was one of the most sensitive people—I will do gentle detox, like castor oil packs over your liver, Epsom salt baths, infrared saunas if you can handle the heat. Sometimes people just put their feet in an Epsom salt bath. So stuff like that is really helpful. I did an Instagram reel. If you don’t have Instagram and you do TikTok, I’d put it on both, and it’s five gentle ways to detox. I would recommend watching that. So that’s how we would start.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (15:05)

But if you can handle some supplements, I would put you on some type of liver support. I have a supplement on my Optimal Reset line called Liver Love, and that has N-acetyl cysteine in it and milk thistle, which are really good at supporting the liver, plus some of the mushrooms that are really supportive to the immune system, like Reishi. And that’s actually a good antihistamine in itself. So I start you on that to make sure that you’re, like I said, pushing those toxins out. So we do that via our liver, our kidneys, and our gut. So peeing, pooping, sweating—that’s how we get rid of toxins. So you want to make sure we’re doing all that enough, too. So if you’re constipated, that’s something I’m going to work on right away because we need you pooping. I’m not going to try to kill anything if you’re not pooping it out. Okay. So that’s number one.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (15:59)

While you’re doing that, I do ask people to reduce their high-histamine foods. So what are high histamine foods? I’m going to give you some of the [most] common high-histamine foods. I’m not going to list every high-histamine food. In my books, I have a yes, no, and maybe list because I want you to try to eat as much as you can. So the ‘no’ foods are my no-go—don’t do this at all in the beginning. Eat as much of the ‘yes’ foods as you like. And then with the ‘maybe’ foods, you’re going to try [them] and see how you do with them.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (16:33)

So on the ‘no’ list, you’re going to see things like alcohol. Alcohol is super high in histamine, and this is why most people with histamine issues do really poorly, especially with red wine more than white—red bothers you more—beer, champagne. But alcohol in general is high in histamine. In any type of fermented food, there are a lot of histamine-building bacteria—histamine-releasing bacteria. Vinegars tend to be really high. Not just putting vinegar on your salad, but eating foods in vinegar like olives, artichokes in the vinegar, or whatever it is, and pickles. So those are going to cause issues. And there are some vinegars that are okay. Distilled white vinegar is lower in histamine. Apple cider vinegar is lower in histamine. And then red wine and balsamic are higher in histamine.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (17:24)

So again, I go through this in my books, and you can try those and see how you do. But I definitely want you to stay away from the balsamic and red wine vinegar. Some citrus fruits—oranges, lemons, limes—some people do okay with one of them but not okay with the other two. So again, you’re trying these. Avocado can really be a trigger for a lot of people with histamine issues. Spinach—if you are one of those people who puts spinach, avocado, and strawberry in their smoothies and you don’t feel well after, it’s because all those things are high in histamine. So strawberries and bananas can be an issue for histamine intolerance. And then some spices, like cinnamon, can be a big trigger. Curry can be a big trigger. So those are some of the highest histamine foods.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (18:09)

Again, even on my website, I have tons of blogs that are free. If you don’t want to buy a book, I have so much information on under the ‘Histamine’ tab—there’s more than enough to read there. So we eliminate those foods, hopefully temporarily, while we’re looking for the root cause.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (18:30)

So some other root causes can be hormone imbalances. Estrogen is a very big driver of histamine intolerance. Estrogen and histamine can actually bind to the same receptor sites. And when that happens, when estrogen binds to what’s called the H1 receptor—it’s a histamine receptor—it causes an increase in histamine release. So this is why some people will notice during their cycle that when estrogen is surging, which would be around ovulation and then a little bit before your period, you get those surges in estrogen, and you may get migraines or have more histamine symptoms.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (19:14)

So estrogen is really tied to that. And then a lot of people have estrogen dominance. Having estrogen dominance leaves you with this thing where you’re triggering more histamine to be released—more and more. So it’s really important to check your estrogen and not just your estrogen number in the blood. We use a test called the DUTCH Test that looks at not only what your estrogen is but how it is broken down because estrogen does a lot of things in the body; it metabolizes through different pathways, and there are different phases of estrogen detoxification. And we can tell by that test where you’re getting stuck and if you are having an issue metabolizing it. So basically, all our hormones need to be broken down and eliminated. So we can tell where that issue is coming from if there is an issue with that. And then, a lot of times, we can work to help support that, and then the histamine issue can be resolved. Even with progesterone, progesterone actually helps us support that DAO enzyme. So we definitely want to have a good balance of estrogen to progesterone.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (20:26)

So I’m going to get into some of the questions that I’ve gotten because I always post questions and do little snippet videos. But I wanted to kind of do this episode and then answer more questions. Okay, so this is from Laura. She asked, “Do you think it’s realistic to be able to eat everything again one day?” I do, depending on what you have going on and why you have this. If it’s something like you were fine, you got a gut infection, and that started this, yes, I think you can completely clean up that infection, get your body to push the toxins out, and really get back to yourself. You can eat foods that are high in histamine again.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (21:16)

That being said, I don’t really want anyone’s goal [to be] to be able to eat whatever they want all the time, because food can be very bad for you if it’s very processed and high in chemicals, and it just causes a lot more than histamine issues in the body. So we want to keep that in mind when we’re looking at a goal with diet. So the goal should be health in general. Now, does that mean you need to eat perfectly all the time? Absolutely not. I had a patient today; she said, “I’m doing really well. I’m doing low histamine, and I’ve removed the inflammatory foods other than the high histamine foods that you asked me about. But I had a corn tortilla the other day at a restaurant.” I’m like, “That is fine. You know, we want you to live life.”

Dr. Becky Campbell: (22:08)

But overall, you just want to try to eat food that makes you feel well. That’s really a good gauge to know if something is what you should be including in your diet. And you just don’t want to eat man-made food, really, because it’s usually full of preservatives and all that. So yes, I think you can get back to eating normal food that’s still low-inflammatory. And like I said, even that 80/20 rule or 90/10, depending on who you are. But basically, you eat all the foods that you know your body loves 80 to 90% of the time, and then 10 to 20% of the time, you go out to a restaurant and eat what you want. If that’s what you like to do to make you feel “normal,” that’s totally fine. So that is the goal: To get you there.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (23:04)

So yes, I do think you can do that. I think that there are some cases where you maybe get to some of the triggers but not all of them, and it’s really hard to figure out what the other triggers are that you can’t find. Let’s say you’re living in mold and it wasn’t detected on a test—so it’s keeping you from doing really well, but you’ve tackled some other things—you may be someone who is going to be able to add back some of the high-histamine foods. You’re going to be able to eat them sometimes, and sometimes you’re not going to be able to eat them. It’s really going to depend on something I call the histamine bucket.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (23:41)

So if you imagine filling a bucket with all the things that can trigger our mast cells to release these inflammatory chemicals—stress is a huge trigger, [as are] hormone imbalances, gut infections, nutrient deficiencies, and all of that stuff—and you have that bucket pretty full, you’re not going to be able to eat the high histamine foods. But if you work on emptying that bucket, which is the whole point of all of this, and then you try to eat those high-histamine foods, you should be able to. So that’s my answer to that one. I hope that was sufficient.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (24:20)

All right, so let’s see. All right. What are your thoughts on probiotics for histamine intolerance and mast cell activation syndrome? There are some histamine-producing bacteria in probiotics and some histamine-degrading bacteria. This is why some people will take probiotics and feel horrible, and then sometimes they feel better with them. This isn’t the only reason, but this is one reason. So what I like to do… Instead of having you run around looking for these individual strains, there are two companies I really like. I like Seeking Health, and their probiotic is called ProBiota HistaminX. So if you can tolerate something with multiple strains, all the strains in that specific product are meant to help degrade histamine—break it down. And then another one I like is MegaSporeBiotic. That’s a really good probiotic for people in general, if you can tolerate that.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (25:20)

And then, if you can’t tolerate a multi-strain and want to try a single strain, I would recommend Lactobacillus rhamnosus. It actually down-regulates histamine receptors in the body and reduces inflammation. Some people just take that one alone. I think the Pure Encapsulations brand has that alone. Clear Labs probably has that alone. I really like the Pure Encapsulations brand, so I would check them. I’m pretty sure they have it. And then Saccharomyces boulardii is also good. That’s actually good for H. pylori and parasites as well. So if you can’t do a multi-strain, try the single strain, and try one of those or even both of those. Okay, so you’re not going to want to eat yogurt and things like that because those tend to have strains that raise histamine.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (26:13)

Okay, so Heather said: “How do you heal when you can’t tolerate almost anything? No supplements or meds—less than 10 foods.” Okay, so this is [one of] those really sensitive people I was telling you [about] that we work with a lot. There are some other things that happen that don’t allow your body to tolerate things, and they really perceive almost everything as a threat. That can be trauma—past trauma from your childhood. And one thing I really like to point out with trauma is that you should not compare your trauma to anyone else’s because it doesn’t have to be as severe as someone else’s to be an issue. It could have been that severe for you. Trauma likes to store itself in our bodies, and if we don’t handle it, it likes to make us sick. So what I notice is that people who are just so sick that they can’t tolerate a lot of food or supplements just have some unresolved trauma sometimes, and they have to actually work through that. There are trauma specialists out there. There are some inner child courses I can link to that I think are really good. So something like that you can do. Somatic therapy is really good. So those are some tools that I will send people to use first.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (27:39)

And then brain retraining is also really good. A lot of the time, when you have something like a sensitivity, your brain remembers that. Let’s say it’s perfume. Every time you smell that perfume, your brain remembers that. And it’s not everybody; it’s just the people who it’s affecting. Your brain stores that memory, and it says, like, “High alert, high alert!” every time it sees that thing again. So that may happen with supplements.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (28:09)

You may have had a bad reaction to a supplement, and your body sees supplements in general as an enemy. So every time you go to take a supplement, you are so nervous that you’re going to have that same response that your body can actually create that response again. We had a guest on, Ashok Gupta, who’s amazing. He has a program called the Gupta Program. I’ll also link to that in the show notes. But he really has a great program that teaches you how to break that cycle and retrain your brain not to do that. So those are some things that I have people work with.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (28:52)

Again, most people can handle at least one of the five forms of gentle detox that I’ve gone over, so I’ll have them start with that. Castor oil packs are a really easy, gentle thing that most people can tolerate. And there’s one that I really like; we’re actually going to have her on the show soon. But I’ll link to her castor oil pack. You can sleep with it because you can tie it on—it’s great. So I will have them start with some really, really gentle detox and see if they can get their body to just start pushing things out, so that way they can take more in. That’s usually how we start people [off]. And then we will really hand-hold them. One thing at a time. We do the testing to see what’s going on. But we get them where they need to be to be able to tolerate the treatment that they need because sometimes they can’t.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (29:46)

I had a patient—actually this is a really amazing story—she was one of the sickest people I’ve seen. She could not walk. She was so sick, she couldn’t walk. So she was basically just bedridden for the most part. And she couldn’t tolerate any supplements, food, or any of that. So we had her do the Gupta program. She did the program first and was so much better after she did that, even halfway through it. And then we were able to get in and do our job, which was working on the gut, hormone balance, and all that stuff. A lot of people don’t have to do this. I don’t want people to be discouraged. But I’m talking about people who know they’re so sensitive that they can barely tolerate anything.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (30:41)

Some people will tell me they get up. I had a comment on Instagram the other day, and someone said, “I feel good when I wake up, and then I drink water and I feel terrible.” This is who I’m talking to. So these are the types of things that you need to consider before you can actually get in and get to those underlying triggers like mold, gut issues, hormone imbalances, and that type of stuff. So that’s how we work with people like that. We do see a lot of people like that. And it does take a lot longer, but I can tell you that most people that we work with, even [those who are] that sensitive, do get better. I like to tell you that because there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (31:25)

If you don’t know my own story with mast cell activation syndrome, I had some symptoms, and they definitely bothered me and made life a little harder to navigate. But when I got into mold, I thought I was going to die. That’s how sick I was. I didn’t even know that I was in mold, which was weird because I can smell mold from a mile away. For some reason, I could not smell this mold, and it was bad. So I was really puzzled for about six months [about] what was going on with me. I was basically losing my life. I mean, I have three kids. I couldn’t drive them to school. I had to move in with my mother to help me. I couldn’t walk to the bathroom by myself. I felt horrible. I was doing testing and not finding anything, never suspecting mold because I thought I would smell it.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (32:23)

So anyway, I ended up getting my breast implants removed, thinking I had that. It wasn’t that. I really tried everything, and nothing worked. But I couldn’t even tolerate [something] like vitamin C; that was too much for me. So I found out I had mold after getting my breast implants removed. And once I got out of the mold, I started feeling a lot better. And I started with Castor oil packs, and then I was able to finally introduce some liver-supporting supplements. I had to actually do some removal with my body. There are protocols. You have to take certain types of binders and stuff like that, but you don’t want to do that on your own. I’m telling you, you can get really sick.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (33:07)

So, anyway. Now I am really good. I feel great a lot of the time. If I don’t feel well, it’s always due to something. It’s due to me not managing my stress properly or me being re-exposed to some harsh chemical or something like that. And then I just know that I have to deal with that or get away from the chemicals or whatever it is, and then I feel good quickly. So that’s kind of how this works. It’s kind of like a spectrum. You can be really mild on it, and this can be really, really easy to fix, or you can be really severe. But either way, there’s almost always an answer to it. So I just want you to know that and know that you can get your life back. And that’s my most important message that I want people to know.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (34:00)

So if you’re struggling and you can’t figure out what’s going on, I have tried to make as many resources [available] as I can. I do free stuff all over my website for those who really can’t do anything financially. I write a lot of articles and try to give as much information as I can. I have my first book that I show, which is The 4-Phase Histamine Reset Plan. And because cooking can be difficult with this, I came out with another book, Low Histamine Cooking in Your Instant Pot. The reason that I did that book with the Instant Pot is because the longer that food sits out, the more histamine it’s releasing. That’s why some people will notice that leftovers do not serve them well. The same thing goes with cooking time. So if you’re cooking, let’s say, meat for eight hours, it’s going to release a lot of histamine. The Instant Pot is a pressure cooker. It cooks everything really quickly, and I’ve noticed that that is what tends to make you feel the best. So I gave 75 low-histamine, low-inflammatory recipes, and they’re really good too.

Dr. Becky Campbell: (35:10)

So I hope that you guys can get your hands on these and try them out. And I always love when people post on social media and show me what they like and what’s helping them because it helps. It inspires me to know what you guys need. So I hope you guys have learned from this, and I hope that you’ve liked this episode. And I love getting questions from you, and I really do try to answer them somehow, whether it’s on Instagram or via the podcast. And we’re really trying to talk a lot more with me and Dr. Krystal, answer a lot of your questions, and just give you guys what you want. So we’re very open to requests and questions from you, and I’ll see you next time!

Dr. Becky Campblell: (35:22)

Thank you, guys, so much for listening to this episode. And if you love this episode, please leave a review; it only takes a couple of minutes. And you can find out more about us on And you can follow us over at Instagram on @HealthBabesPodcast, @DrBeckyCampbell, and @DrKrystalHohn. Have an amazing day!